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	<title>Comments on: The perseverance of spammers</title>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2005/12/the-perseverance-of-spammers.html/comment-page-1#comment-1181</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the spam isn&#039;t the end of the means.  It&#039;s the means to the end.  They aren&#039;t necessarily looking for people to click the link in the spam as they are interested in Google and others indexing the fact that the link is there, and raising their page rank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the spam isn&#8217;t the end of the means.  It&#8217;s the means to the end.  They aren&#8217;t necessarily looking for people to click the link in the spam as they are interested in Google and others indexing the fact that the link is there, and raising their page rank.</p>
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		<title>By: kelet</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2005/12/the-perseverance-of-spammers.html/comment-page-1#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>kelet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 02:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can never expect the spammers to be sane as supposed to be .They are just enjoy the spread of those junk without a moments thought of the efficiency.
The worst case I’ve met was that my host provide stopped my site for one day because the supporter take the gamble spam as my post ,because of lacking care of my site, spams were increased to a huge amount .After that ,I just visit my site panel periodically ,just to clear the weeds.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can never expect the spammers to be sane as supposed to be .They are just enjoy the spread of those junk without a moments thought of the efficiency.<br />
The worst case I’ve met was that my host provide stopped my site for one day because the supporter take the gamble spam as my post ,because of lacking care of my site, spams were increased to a huge amount .After that ,I just visit my site panel periodically ,just to clear the weeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Salih Pekcan</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2005/12/the-perseverance-of-spammers.html/comment-page-1#comment-971</link>
		<dc:creator>Salih Pekcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are harassed by the spammers just because sending spam is a baby&#039;s job except the efforts of those good programmers who develops the necessary scripts. This won&#039;t stop until they realize that spamming does not increase their bussiness performance. And it is the duty of marketing people to persuade them as they gave the idea of increasing sales through advertisements. 
I wish a world where people really respected each other. 
Regards,
Yavuz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are harassed by the spammers just because sending spam is a baby&#8217;s job except the efforts of those good programmers who develops the necessary scripts. This won&#8217;t stop until they realize that spamming does not increase their bussiness performance. And it is the duty of marketing people to persuade them as they gave the idea of increasing sales through advertisements.<br />
I wish a world where people really respected each other.<br />
Regards,<br />
Yavuz</p>
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		<title>By: gRegor</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2005/12/the-perseverance-of-spammers.html/comment-page-1#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>gRegor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve implemented my own little spamcheck by including the time of the original post (itime) as a hidden field and verifying it against the database.  Obviously if it&#039;s missing or doesn&#039;t match, the comment doesn&#039;t go through.

It&#039;s worked quite well for some time now, but i&#039;m getting spam comments _occasionally_ (maybe once or twice every couple weeks).  Sometimes it&#039;s 5 in one burst, but no more.  I&#039;m surprised by the relative infrequency, which makes me almost wonder if I&#039;m being manually spammed.  I would figure if they made a bot to get around my system, I&#039;d be getting a lot more than I am now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve implemented my own little spamcheck by including the time of the original post (itime) as a hidden field and verifying it against the database.  Obviously if it&#8217;s missing or doesn&#8217;t match, the comment doesn&#8217;t go through.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worked quite well for some time now, but i&#8217;m getting spam comments _occasionally_ (maybe once or twice every couple weeks).  Sometimes it&#8217;s 5 in one burst, but no more.  I&#8217;m surprised by the relative infrequency, which makes me almost wonder if I&#8217;m being manually spammed.  I would figure if they made a bot to get around my system, I&#8217;d be getting a lot more than I am now.</p>
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		<title>By: humblethorn</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2005/12/the-perseverance-of-spammers.html/comment-page-1#comment-956</link>
		<dc:creator>humblethorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t most of the spamming done using bots? If our sites are showing up in searches (as yours are) those bots find us quickly and efficiently. Unfortunately, the only solution seems to be control - which tends to discourage posting. There is a solution somewhere, but the commerce of the web is going to have to change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t most of the spamming done using bots? If our sites are showing up in searches (as yours are) those bots find us quickly and efficiently. Unfortunately, the only solution seems to be control &#8211; which tends to discourage posting. There is a solution somewhere, but the commerce of the web is going to have to change</p>
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		<title>By: Roel</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2005/12/the-perseverance-of-spammers.html/comment-page-1#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator>Roel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting observations. I knew those comment spammers were quick to adapt, but this is amazingly fast (and not very good news). 

Regarding your question: it probably takes more effort to check if a comment has been posted then just continuing the unsuccesfull spamming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting observations. I knew those comment spammers were quick to adapt, but this is amazingly fast (and not very good news). </p>
<p>Regarding your question: it probably takes more effort to check if a comment has been posted then just continuing the unsuccesfull spamming</p>
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