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		<title>By: guru</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1383</link>
		<dc:creator>guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Opera 9.51 on WinXP
From the 43 selectors 43 have passed, 0 are buggy and 0 are unsupported (Passed 578 out of 578 tests)

Same machine, IE 7.0.5730.13
From the 43 selectors 13 have passed, 4 are buggy and 26 are unsupported (Passed 330 out of 578 tests)

Same machine, Firefox 3.0.1
From the 43 selectors 36 have passed, 0 are buggy and 7 are unsupported (Passed 373 out of 578 tests)

Same machine, Safari 3.1.2 (525.21)
From the 43 selectors 43 have passed, 0 are buggy and 0 are unsupported (Passed 578 out of 578 tests)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Opera 9.51 on WinXP<br />
From the 43 selectors 43 have passed, 0 are buggy and 0 are unsupported (Passed 578 out of 578 tests)</p>
<p>Same machine, IE 7.0.5730.13<br />
From the 43 selectors 13 have passed, 4 are buggy and 26 are unsupported (Passed 330 out of 578 tests)</p>
<p>Same machine, Firefox 3.0.1<br />
From the 43 selectors 36 have passed, 0 are buggy and 7 are unsupported (Passed 373 out of 578 tests)</p>
<p>Same machine, Safari 3.1.2 (525.21)<br />
From the 43 selectors 43 have passed, 0 are buggy and 0 are unsupported (Passed 578 out of 578 tests)</p>
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		<title>By: wodka</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1280</link>
		<dc:creator>wodka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all the idea of the test, and the test itself is great! I&#039;ve found it while looking for a solution for my problem in IE, i wanted to use the #id.class selector syntax.

So my question is, that is it possible to add #id.class, and .class1.class2 testing to the test?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all the idea of the test, and the test itself is great! I&#8217;ve found it while looking for a solution for my problem in IE, i wanted to use the #id.class selector syntax.</p>
<p>So my question is, that is it possible to add #id.class, and .class1.class2 testing to the test?</p>
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		<title>By: Yeggstry</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1180</link>
		<dc:creator>Yeggstry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you guys know, I&#039;m using the latest Firefox 3.0 Nightlies and got the following from the test:

From the 43 selectors 32 have passed, 4 are buggy and 7 are unsupported (Passed 369 out of 578 tests)

Look likes its getting better, and its only a pre-alpha 2 :)

Also it passes the ACID 2 test.

Thanks for the blog and links to the css3.info site, I&#039;m in the process of rewriting my site to use some of these CSS3 styles that you have explained so well :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you guys know, I&#8217;m using the latest Firefox 3.0 Nightlies and got the following from the test:</p>
<p>From the 43 selectors 32 have passed, 4 are buggy and 7 are unsupported (Passed 369 out of 578 tests)</p>
<p>Look likes its getting better, and its only a pre-alpha 2 :)</p>
<p>Also it passes the ACID 2 test.</p>
<p>Thanks for the blog and links to the css3.info site, I&#8217;m in the process of rewriting my site to use some of these CSS3 styles that you have explained so well :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sonic</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that xhtml must use lower case, so the case sensitive comparison of ie7 could be acceptable.

By the way, anyone know a links to a table of comparison between crosbrowser support of css, updated to ie7 and ff2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that xhtml must use lower case, so the case sensitive comparison of ie7 could be acceptable.</p>
<p>By the way, anyone know a links to a table of comparison between crosbrowser support of css, updated to ie7 and ff2?</p>
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		<title>By: rakaz</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>rakaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Thomas,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We updated the test yesterday. It now has even more test cases and the result are a bit more refined. Read about it here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.css3.info/blog/css-selector-test-updated/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.css3.info/blog/c...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Thomas,</p>
<p>We updated the test yesterday. It now has even more test cases and the result are a bit more refined. Read about it here: <a href="http://www.css3.info/blog/css-selector-test-updated/" rel="nofollow">http://www.css3.info/blog/c&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anne van Kesteren</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne van Kesteren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I wonder if that&#039;s really what browsers do, but I suppose that&#039;s what HTML4 says. You could be right though, I don&#039;t really recall.

By the way, the reason Opera fails several attribute matching test is because we store the values known attributes in a special way which happens to be identical to the selector that shouldn&#039;t match...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I wonder if that&#8217;s really what browsers do, but I suppose that&#8217;s what HTML4 says. You could be right though, I don&#8217;t really recall.</p>
<p>By the way, the reason Opera fails several attribute matching test is because we store the values known attributes in a special way which happens to be identical to the selector that shouldn&#8217;t match&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did the test with Opera 9.02 (build 8585), and the result was different from yours:

&quot;From the 43 selectors 25 have passed, 3 are buggy and 15 are unsupported (Passed 346 out of 578 tests)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did the test with Opera 9.02 (build 8585), and the result was different from yours:</p>
<p>&#8220;From the 43 selectors 25 have passed, 3 are buggy and 15 are unsupported (Passed 346 out of 578 tests)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rakaz</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1094</link>
		<dc:creator>rakaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anne,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually this is not completely true... It is a bit more complicated than the current testcase shows, the next update (later today) will solve that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whether or not an attribute should be compared using a case-sensitive or a case-insensitive method is determined by the HTML specification. Some attributes are marked as case-insensitive, for example: align. Some are marked as case-sensitive, for example: title and id. Some are case-neutral, for example: width. And other are not defined at all, but depend on the value itself, for example: href. To be on the safe side, these should also be compared in a case-sensitive way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Basically, the browser needs to have a list of attributes. And based on that list it needs to determine what to do with which attribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anne,</p>
<p>Actually this is not completely true&#8230; It is a bit more complicated than the current testcase shows, the next update (later today) will solve that.</p>
<p>Whether or not an attribute should be compared using a case-sensitive or a case-insensitive method is determined by the HTML specification. Some attributes are marked as case-insensitive, for example: align. Some are marked as case-sensitive, for example: title and id. Some are case-neutral, for example: width. And other are not defined at all, but depend on the value itself, for example: href. To be on the safe side, these should also be compared in a case-sensitive way.</p>
<p>Basically, the browser needs to have a list of attributes. And based on that list it needs to determine what to do with which attribute.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne van Kesteren</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1093</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne van Kesteren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can see in the DOM inspector of Firefox for instance that several values are made lowercase. (Like LEFT for align=&quot;&quot; attribute.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see in the DOM inspector of Firefox for instance that several values are made lowercase. (Like LEFT for align=&#8221;" attribute.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anne van Kesteren</title>
		<link>http://rakaz.nl/2006/10/how-well-do-browsers-support-css-selectors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne van Kesteren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Konquerer and other browsers do is correct. You should compare case sensitive there. Just the attribute name itself should not be a case sensitive match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Konquerer and other browsers do is correct. You should compare case sensitive there. Just the attribute name itself should not be a case sensitive match.</p>
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